in Ireland we have a simulacrum of the culture wars you have in the US but our mainstream is broadly centrist - socially progressive, economically conservative (i.e. corrupt) - and we haven't seen the extreme polarisation you've seen.
maybe this is because our history is as the oppressed rather than the empire.
US problem seems to be the frustration of the thwarted "big man" + nostalgia for a repressed era. same with the brits.
manifest destiny gone sour is pretty ugly.
@wjmaggos something that doesnt treat a 70 iq drug addicted moron as equal to a 150 iq history professor
a representative democracy averaging out at a 100iq should be able to reliably elect one over the other.
@wjmaggos look around pal. it doesnt. democracy aims for the bottom and gets it. and 100 iq is stupid af. nobody under 120 should be asked their opinion on anything.
>implying the drug addicted moron should get any say in policy of any kind whatsoever
I don't think it's an IQ problem but more about citizens taking their role in governing more seriously. and improving journalism etc. but again, what's the alternative? just add an IQ test to vote?
@wjmaggos there are lots of alternatives: monarchy, national socialism, tribalism. we would need to add more than just an IQ standard though.
of course IQ is a problem, someone who cant understand abstract concepts cant process and grasp political issues.
The real questions is can we have a workable democracy when intelligence agencies have coopted every seat of power
having so much information locked off from public contemplation and members of our government possibly being subject to blackmail does completely destabilize the system.
Liberalism requires a state, but it has to be under control of the people and properly limited. There's many ways to manage that, and being composed of humans, it requires a sense of legitimacy to be maintained, meaning it can be attacked through appeals to reasoning and empathy. Libertarian framing sets it as a separate malevolent being that isn't borne out over time. Most people under democracies have lived under governments that have done more good than harm for them over time.
a place for liberal values on the #fediverse